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much of the property tax savings will go into the full restoration of the property. the commission did#clunanimoy approve the project and afforded a positive recommendation to the board of supervisors, with a couple of caveats or conditions to continue working with staff on a few minor details of the contract, mainly the phasing of the restoration to make sure that staff has the most updated information about when work will occur, and when staff needs to go out there to review the completion of that work, according to the state mandated requirements of the program. that conclude my presentation. and unless you have any comments. thank you. >> president fong: thank you. commissioner sugaya. >> commissioner sugaya: mr. frye, in terms of the mill's act in general, i know that under supervisor wiener's revisions there is now a yearly kind of process, as i understand it. and the initial deadline for let's say 2013 is may 1. but if someone turns in an application for mill's act, let's say next month, will that get scheduled before may 1, before the hpc, or will you hold
much of the property tax savings will go into the full restoration of the property. the commission did#clunanimoy approve the project and afforded a positive recommendation to the board of supervisors, with a couple of caveats or conditions to continue working with staff on a few minor details of the contract, mainly the phasing of the restoration to make sure that staff has the most updated information about when work will occur, and when staff needs to go out there to review the completion of...
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it would not reduce their property taxes anymore. if you just purchase property and it's a contributor to the district you would have high property taxes. the only people who can apply for the mills act property tax reductions are owners of properties of individual landmarks or owners of properties contributors to landmark districts as well as registered landmark districts. so designation of the duboce park landmark district would enable property owners to apply for the mills acted. it's not a dollar for dollar reduction. the mills act is a maintenance restoration or rehabilitation plan. it's a contract that the city enters into with the property owners, department reviews it, the city tax assessor reviews it and ensures the calculations are correct but it's not a dollar per dollar duction. if you were a new propertier you wouldry with you out agreed to scopes of work to maintain your property. for example window repair every five years or you would agreejáñ that in seven years you would replace your roof, or if you wanted to resto
it would not reduce their property taxes anymore. if you just purchase property and it's a contributor to the district you would have high property taxes. the only people who can apply for the mills act property tax reductions are owners of properties of individual landmarks or owners of properties contributors to landmark districts as well as registered landmark districts. so designation of the duboce park landmark district would enable property owners to apply for the mills acted. it's not a...
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so finally i also have a question around tax benefits. this has come up a lot in our neighborhood meetings. nobody understands the millsabilitmills actand to our s taken advantage of it supervisor wiener has improved the law but that sounds like a gini pig situation to me. i emphasize there are people in the community feel this will greatly add to the cost of living there in terms of extra designer fees, contractor, expediter fees and that will make it hard for people with young families to stay in the neighborhood. thank you. >> president fong: additional speakers who have called? >> hello. my name is kenneth wingard on the castro benefit district and the market octavia plan community advisory committee. and have a degree in architectural preservation. today i am here as a four decade resident of the neighborhood. i've renovated a 1860's cottage that was designated as unsalvageable and in 1905 edwardian that had fallen into disrepair. i fell in love with the neighborhood with these diamonds in the rough and have been delighted at the cur
so finally i also have a question around tax benefits. this has come up a lot in our neighborhood meetings. nobody understands the millsabilitmills actand to our s taken advantage of it supervisor wiener has improved the law but that sounds like a gini pig situation to me. i emphasize there are people in the community feel this will greatly add to the cost of living there in terms of extra designer fees, contractor, expediter fees and that will make it hard for people with young families to...
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were there other classifications reviewed rather than just the structure within the treasurer/tax collector? it could very well be this is right classification. i just want to understand that process. >> supervisor, as you know, all of the city's classifications are reviewed by dhr and i know dhr did work with the treasurer's office to identify the appropriate classifications. the09 53 position, just the salary and range for that position is $125,000 to $159,000 on an annual basis. i think the information reflected in the budget analyst's report is the fully-loaded costs meaning the fringe benefits and the salaries as well. the deputy director 3 the 0 53 as i understand is the appropriate deputy director level for the treasurer's office based on their organizational structure, which uses the 0953 classification. >> if i just take a look at the high-end of that classification, at $159,000, and i'm multiply it .42, i still only get $226,000, so i just wanted to understand what the differential was. why don't we go to the budget analyst's report. >> madame chair and supervisor avalos, yes, tha
were there other classifications reviewed rather than just the structure within the treasurer/tax collector? it could very well be this is right classification. i just want to understand that process. >> supervisor, as you know, all of the city's classifications are reviewed by dhr and i know dhr did work with the treasurer's office to identify the appropriate classifications. the09 53 position, just the salary and range for that position is $125,000 to $159,000 on an annual basis. i...
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increpts that is baseline established and growth above that baseline of what pedestrian interest tax and so it's similar to increment financing and these are at the growth and tax of project's cause that otherwise go to the taxing entities pribblely the generally fund and we hold those proceeds to repay the investment and infrastructure. so no, to the proposed policy. there has been a long tradition both in the charter and in the burton act that the harbor fund is a self supporting the port is a self supporting enterprise and the city obviously, we pay for that was we purchase from the city and we want to maintain a balance so that the 50 city is not subsidizing the hash fund for our activities and the general services that we require from the city and so we have under taken a nexxus analysis in 2004 and eight that looks at the balance of payment and the next is the methodology that ports with long term leases where the tenants pay tax they pay ampleel tax to be provided these services like any other taxpayer and so the nexxus analysis looks at the unleased land and infrastructure on
increpts that is baseline established and growth above that baseline of what pedestrian interest tax and so it's similar to increment financing and these are at the growth and tax of project's cause that otherwise go to the taxing entities pribblely the generally fund and we hold those proceeds to repay the investment and infrastructure. so no, to the proposed policy. there has been a long tradition both in the charter and in the burton act that the harbor fund is a self supporting the port is...
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of disability, department of aging and adult services and mod can monitor the income from this new tax, i'm going to suggest that some of that extra money could be devoted to restoring some level of the cutbacks already made locally. but statewide is the larger issue. that is where the major changes have come. so i also wanted to alert you to a program called "a california budget for all of us." it's convening groups include well-known groups like the western center on law and poverty, health access, the california partnership, and the california immigrant policy center. the mantra is "restore, rebuild and reinvest." so this advocacy will be taken up by various groups including the california alliance of retired americans. there are four polices that are coming from this california budget for all of us. four polices for the coming california budget cycle. one, restore the social safety net cuts being implemented now during this 2012-2013 fiscal year. second, a moratorium on cuts to vital programs for vulnerable californians in the coming year. that includes lots of us. third, continue
of disability, department of aging and adult services and mod can monitor the income from this new tax, i'm going to suggest that some of that extra money could be devoted to restoring some level of the cutbacks already made locally. but statewide is the larger issue. that is where the major changes have come. so i also wanted to alert you to a program called "a california budget for all of us." it's convening groups include well-known groups like the western center on law and...
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is deducted from the property taxes. >> correct. >> okay. not including the part -- okay. the only thing i wonder is there is -- yes, the park that is there now isn't the park at 1907 obviously but it's been a park the same for a while now and the neighborhood needs assurance the city wouldn't do renovation of the park and put grass in and redwood chips. is there any assurance the park will be kept in its present state? >> the park is contributed as a contributor to the ceqa historic districts so future alterations to the park would need considered environmental review, and we did have a discussion early on with rec and park who was concerned about potentially having any review of the harvey milk center for example and we tried to emphasize it's unusual connection between the park and the buildings, the lack of a physical separation of the roadway, these park entrances, and they understood that, and they agreed that these small were the most important areas. >> a couple more things. when you do interior changes -- let's say you want to put a
is deducted from the property taxes. >> correct. >> okay. not including the part -- okay. the only thing i wonder is there is -- yes, the park that is there now isn't the park at 1907 obviously but it's been a park the same for a while now and the neighborhood needs assurance the city wouldn't do renovation of the park and put grass in and redwood chips. is there any assurance the park will be kept in its present state? >> the park is contributed as a contributor to the ceqa...
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the result is that the state transit assistance is now based on the details sales tax receipts. that is a fluctuating amount of money and therefore we only rely on the projections over the course of the year. so far it looks pretty good. the other big news is that the state is looking pretty good. troop prop 30 passed, significant dollars in projected revenue. so i think we find ourselves in a cautiously optimistic time. we'll be following that as the year unfolds. we participate in that process through various trade associations and our meeting, in fact, next week with the commit staff working on the bill to have california's law conform for the federal law. cap and trade another very large statewide issue. san francisco as a city family is engaging on that through our advocacy, our lobbyists, as well as the league of cities, california state association of counties and others who have an interest in making sure that local government and transportation programs in particular, given that transportation emits 38% of the state's greenhouse gas emissions do see some benefit from th
the result is that the state transit assistance is now based on the details sales tax receipts. that is a fluctuating amount of money and therefore we only rely on the projections over the course of the year. so far it looks pretty good. the other big news is that the state is looking pretty good. troop prop 30 passed, significant dollars in projected revenue. so i think we find ourselves in a cautiously optimistic time. we'll be following that as the year unfolds. we participate in that...
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they did do a poll of possible sales tax . >> that is where it comes state and federal funding. so they are looking for some kind of local thing and that would be very difficult in the three counties, because the three counties look at it very differently. thanks. anybody else? anything? thank you very much. >> mr. chairman, no members indicated that they are interested in addressing you on this matter. so it's before you for agency. >> each we have a motion on this to support? >> so moved. >> second. >> any discussion? all those in favor, say aye? >> aye. >> item 14 authorizing the director to enact a small business enterprise bonding and financial assistance program on federally-assisted contracts including establishing a surety bond reserve fund and obtaining a letter of credit or alternate collateral for small business enterprises on the federally-assisted contract grams i'm virginia harmon and i manage the small business enterprise program. one of the greatest barriers to small business bidding on public works construction contracts is an inability to access the surety bond
they did do a poll of possible sales tax . >> that is where it comes state and federal funding. so they are looking for some kind of local thing and that would be very difficult in the three counties, because the three counties look at it very differently. thanks. anybody else? anything? thank you very much. >> mr. chairman, no members indicated that they are interested in addressing you on this matter. so it's before you for agency. >> each we have a motion on this to...
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take things for granted without having empirical data we have this habit that we can just spend the tax payers money. i know farmers in the mid-west who are paid not to till the land while half the land they grow corn which when the final product comes out costs $74 a gallon. tank clean energy. so we need to go deeper into it. it's not to say that the deliberation here favors that we do the right thing. we really need to do the right hing with empirical data, not with fluff, and as one who is a philosopher and i go really deep into things and read stuff i will not tolerate fluff. i will expose it. i will shine light where there is darkness. thank you very much. >> thank you. any other members of the public would like to comment? seeing none. we will close public comment. and madam clerk do we have any other items before us? >> no mr. chr app >> hey, guys, known a with the weekly. much to do and much to see. here the top activities at the top of my list. this tuesday, january 15th, the sf main library will feature free film night and reception and celebrate 2013. join itbs for viewing
take things for granted without having empirical data we have this habit that we can just spend the tax payers money. i know farmers in the mid-west who are paid not to till the land while half the land they grow corn which when the final product comes out costs $74 a gallon. tank clean energy. so we need to go deeper into it. it's not to say that the deliberation here favors that we do the right thing. we really need to do the right hing with empirical data, not with fluff, and as one who is a...
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business taxes well. a lot of these changes are changes that affect big business in san francisco but we need to do more to make sure that we support every day businesses. we are seeing higher income people; (indiscernible) i really believe that san francisco needs to do something deliberate, specific that measures how people on the bottom rung are getting by in a better way. it's not enough that we just serve the wealthy interest; we make sure that as we do that that we support the people that i getting by not as much of the city. i was at dc about two months ago, i went to a lot of different monuments, really beautiful statues, beautiful buildings, the lincoln memorial, actually passed the lincoln memorial onto the franklin delano roosevelt memorial. something struck me there, quote from fdr: the test about progress is not whether we add more to those who have enough but whether we provided enough to those who do not have enough. we want to make sure that people see real differences. i look forward to w
business taxes well. a lot of these changes are changes that affect big business in san francisco but we need to do more to make sure that we support every day businesses. we are seeing higher income people; (indiscernible) i really believe that san francisco needs to do something deliberate, specific that measures how people on the bottom rung are getting by in a better way. it's not enough that we just serve the wealthy interest; we make sure that as we do that that we support the people that...
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where are the changes in other revenue pictures, whether it is transfer tax or hotel tax or other things that help to improve the picture. in addition to that, how is it that we can really control some of our expenses? i think that in order to address the $380 million budget deficit, we really have to take a look at both sides, revenue side as well as the cost side of things, and i think there are certain things that the city can do right now that might that not impact this year's budget or -- that might not impact this year's budget for next year's budget but will have a long-term effect. i mean pension reform and some of the ways we calculate those liabilities. those will be important topics to think about as we go forward. >> what are the city's housing needs, and what do you think the board of supervisors should be doing to address those? supervisor chu: it is no secret -- you talk to any person on the street, and people recognize generally that it is expensive to live in san francisco. standard of living for cost of living is a little bit higher here. housing prices are a little bit
where are the changes in other revenue pictures, whether it is transfer tax or hotel tax or other things that help to improve the picture. in addition to that, how is it that we can really control some of our expenses? i think that in order to address the $380 million budget deficit, we really have to take a look at both sides, revenue side as well as the cost side of things, and i think there are certain things that the city can do right now that might that not impact this year's budget or --...
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what you need to do to come in with the data to be considered for review your taxes and also educating them in the process, and how long the process may take. so people know what to expect upfront before they come in >> seeing no other questionsm' thank you for your time. the property owners have the opportunity to request translation? >> we have not had people ask for us to provide that translators. if when they come into the office it is apparent that they may have difficulty during the hearing office because of language barriers we suggest that the try to bring either family members are somebody in with them for their hearing that can help them translate at the hearing. we have been fortunate that we have a staff person who does speak two dialects, chinese mandarin. when we are aware of that we recommended they tried to bring in someone to help them through the process. unfortunately we cannot offer the staff person to translate for them. >> i don't think it should be a staff person. but working with adrian pots [sounds like] office of sitting engagement is incredibly important. the
what you need to do to come in with the data to be considered for review your taxes and also educating them in the process, and how long the process may take. so people know what to expect upfront before they come in >> seeing no other questionsm' thank you for your time. the property owners have the opportunity to request translation? >> we have not had people ask for us to provide that translators. if when they come into the office it is apparent that they may have difficulty...
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i remember years ago trying to pay my property taxes and being told i am so sorry you can't do that yet. i found it odd that they do not want my money. the process then was that they had not figured out the escape assessment; they were still working on numbers from years earlier. they knew those based on my purchase price but they were not ready to collect the money for four more years. i knew they would be collecting at some point so i set it aside. i can appreciate that so many people don't. if i were asked, i would be happy to lend a hand and solve these problems. >> it is not the role of the assessment board to facilitate a process between our citizens and our homeowners or property owners but for me it is something that as citizens of san francisco, help push to make it easier for people to understand and easier to get a rebate. >> when i had my appeal i talk with five or six people who did not understand the comp period, were certain dates. they had come to the wrong dates. i helped each of them during my appeal to make an appointment for a new date. i spoke with a very nice woman
i remember years ago trying to pay my property taxes and being told i am so sorry you can't do that yet. i found it odd that they do not want my money. the process then was that they had not figured out the escape assessment; they were still working on numbers from years earlier. they knew those based on my purchase price but they were not ready to collect the money for four more years. i knew they would be collecting at some point so i set it aside. i can appreciate that so many people don't....
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really dependent upon inviting thousands more people here to enjoy our resources here in the city, to tax us a little bit on it, but this is what we do as a great international city. all of you have a very distinct role in all of this and it's my pleasure to begin telling you how proud i am and the months of september and particularly october have all been full of great events, and numerous events, and sometimes on schedules that while we had mentally took note they would be on the similar weekends, we were of course needing to really communicate with each other, and make sure we did all the things in the background that no one ever sees and talks to each other to make sure things happen smoothly, and i want to give big kudos to ed risin and all the others in transportation and advising people to take public transportation and emphasize that in all of our major international and worldwide and world seize of events that happened in the city. >> >> whether it's america's cup or fleet week or some incredible music on the bluegrass side of the city as well as just neighborhood events that we
really dependent upon inviting thousands more people here to enjoy our resources here in the city, to tax us a little bit on it, but this is what we do as a great international city. all of you have a very distinct role in all of this and it's my pleasure to begin telling you how proud i am and the months of september and particularly october have all been full of great events, and numerous events, and sometimes on schedules that while we had mentally took note they would be on the similar...
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the city is not getting any sales tax. we pay sales tax to the city. you are losing. we're geting into more areas. construction. this is common view on 2nd street. 2nd street is under massive construction. and it will be. and if you keep putting the truck in there, we're going to have a nightmare on 2nd street. so i think i would like you to reconsider what you are looking at. also the health problem. we have got a flu epidemic going. you want the people who are serving you food to be properly -- [ inaudible ] >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> can we ask people not to repeat what has been stated by others. thank you. >> i am jeff knoll, i work as an inspector for the san francisco health department. i'm not here representing the city. i am here as a coffee drinker. i am in and out of restaurants regularly, and instead of standing in line at a restaurant, i would rather grab a quick cup of good coffee at expresso subito. >> my name is lynn person and i have lived and worked in san francisco for the last 29 years. i'm a business person in downtown and i guess i'
the city is not getting any sales tax. we pay sales tax to the city. you are losing. we're geting into more areas. construction. this is common view on 2nd street. 2nd street is under massive construction. and it will be. and if you keep putting the truck in there, we're going to have a nightmare on 2nd street. so i think i would like you to reconsider what you are looking at. also the health problem. we have got a flu epidemic going. you want the people who are serving you food to be properly...
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>> he enacted the largest tax increase at the state level in history. i resigned as the chief republican whip in protest. john: he also funded stem cell research. i talk to the guy pushing this and i said you could pay for this yourself why is it a government job? >> democrats wanted to stick a thumb into the eye of georgia bush just like the emission standards to say we are californians. john: then i read this organization has to be revamped, a conflict of interest, all of this money is invested? >> now with about the initiative another large tax increase in history now by $50 billion. but they are lying. revenue projections will not come true. the balanced budget looks good in jittery but then the revenues come of you say it is a shortfall. it could be a billion or $30 billion. we will see that happen again. john: chuck devore you moved to texas? >> the states are so similar. population, the second and third states with land mass mass, more similar than different, both last with natural resources and a coastline with ports. similar on the surface why
>> he enacted the largest tax increase at the state level in history. i resigned as the chief republican whip in protest. john: he also funded stem cell research. i talk to the guy pushing this and i said you could pay for this yourself why is it a government job? >> democrats wanted to stick a thumb into the eye of georgia bush just like the emission standards to say we are californians. john: then i read this organization has to be revamped, a conflict of interest, all of this...
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as i understand it, it is from tax increases, is it not? >> i'm happy to answer all questions. >> just the last one. >> the net savings come from a lot of provisions but a lot of it comes from the provision that would pay for the alternative minimum tax. that would reduce -- >> a significant portion does come from tax increases. >> a third. >> you have a statement about federal-billion pay freeze. i find this to be terribly disingenuous. when barack obama took office to now, we have 145,000 additional federal workers. to suggest pay has been frozen is not an accurate statement. their increases and bonuses and others, we've dramatically increased the federal payroll. the budget being proposed, when you say pay freeze, does that mean expenditures on payroll will go up or stay the same? >> it means people are not going to get a cost-of-living adjustment right now. >> the line item for going forward -- the total, will that go up or be sustained? we will obviously have to pay the people who are hiring. for an individual federal worker -- they'll
as i understand it, it is from tax increases, is it not? >> i'm happy to answer all questions. >> just the last one. >> the net savings come from a lot of provisions but a lot of it comes from the provision that would pay for the alternative minimum tax. that would reduce -- >> a significant portion does come from tax increases. >> a third. >> you have a statement about federal-billion pay freeze. i find this to be terribly disingenuous. when barack obama...
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you will get a tax credit. if you need to make changes in the structure of your premises, there are also tax credits for that. most of these cases start with a letter. a demand letter. that is usually signed not by a lawyer, but by it up plaintive. the plaintiff may not be a professional plaintiff. that does not make any difference. the defense has been tried in court. is a civil rights statute. -- it is a civil rights statute. they can be a perfectly legitimate plaintiffs to bring a lawsuit, and there are a number of people who belong to disability organizations that actually, that is what their livelihood is, bringing these lawsuits. the gentleman over here, who was also a lawyer knows of at least one case involving two lawsuits. they started all neighborhoods. the target places like san francisco because this is an old city with old buildings, virtually none of which comply. we only have new construction that would be billed to 1988 compliance standards, usually. whatever kind of business you have, the build
you will get a tax credit. if you need to make changes in the structure of your premises, there are also tax credits for that. most of these cases start with a letter. a demand letter. that is usually signed not by a lawyer, but by it up plaintive. the plaintiff may not be a professional plaintiff. that does not make any difference. the defense has been tried in court. is a civil rights statute. -- it is a civil rights statute. they can be a perfectly legitimate plaintiffs to bring a lawsuit,...
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this is tax incentives. you have to have tax liability. you have to pay taxes to make this thing valuable to you, but most people do. the law is written at 30% of the cost you can have a tax credit of 30%. let's talk about real numbers. what am i paying now and what am i going to be paying in the future? if i can make money today on my monthly payment and go green, why not? solar kind of reverses the effect. it's like tax brackets. the return on investment typically is higher if you got a big bill. there is also another thing about time of use rates. i want to go over it very briefly. it does have some effect and you will hear it about on your bid. the time of use rate is a way that you tilts are trying to help -- utilities are trying to manage their peak demand. you charge people more during peak periods. you make it up to them by charging the low market rate off peak. this is off peak and you'll be charged a very low rate for it. at shoulder peak you'll be charged more. at on peak, you'll be charged the most, another shoulder, another of
this is tax incentives. you have to have tax liability. you have to pay taxes to make this thing valuable to you, but most people do. the law is written at 30% of the cost you can have a tax credit of 30%. let's talk about real numbers. what am i paying now and what am i going to be paying in the future? if i can make money today on my monthly payment and go green, why not? solar kind of reverses the effect. it's like tax brackets. the return on investment typically is higher if you got a big...
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the next one will also be on how to grain your business, with tax -- green your business, tax credits available with that. for non-profit, charitable organizations, we have a workshop coming up. that is helpful for those of you who are looking to access the committee on a durable basis. >> also, on behalf of leader pelosi, i want to thank our panel and her staff. we are tenants in this building. i apologize for the security situation that happened upstairs. if you have concerns about it, please come and see me. i would like to convey those to the landlord here so that it does not happen again. thank you. >> hey, guys, known a with the weekly. much to do and much to see. here the top activities at the top of my list. this tuesday, january 15th, the sf main library will feature free film night and reception and celebrate 2013. join itbs for viewing soul food junkieses, history and cultural significance of soul food, black cultural identity. across the street from the library at grove street. after movie might, learn about the 21st sea lion anniversary. this thursday through next monday,
the next one will also be on how to grain your business, with tax -- green your business, tax credits available with that. for non-profit, charitable organizations, we have a workshop coming up. that is helpful for those of you who are looking to access the committee on a durable basis. >> also, on behalf of leader pelosi, i want to thank our panel and her staff. we are tenants in this building. i apologize for the security situation that happened upstairs. if you have concerns about it,...
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we can talk about regulation and pension and taxes and the government. a lot of that is [inaudible] a survey said housing prices are too high and that is a negative factor on recruitment. i thought, maybe we can bring the prices down. foreclosure works magic. i do not think you want that. you want rising wealth which could translate into a rising houses -- housing prices. you can increase density and breakdown similar rules, you get more people. there's a lot of things. as i drove down here from oakland cut -- oakland, i saw those cars in the ordinary lanes. one person per car. you have this one person with all this steel and plastic and oil. it is ridiculous. we're figuring out ways to do that. whether it is high speed rail or electric cars. the first will be rolling off the factory in treatments in the next few months -- in three months and in the next few months. yes, the innovative companies are small. the electric cars -- the tanks are small but so is fairchild or in tal or hewlett-packard -- intel or hewlett-packard or steve jobs. the seats we plan
we can talk about regulation and pension and taxes and the government. a lot of that is [inaudible] a survey said housing prices are too high and that is a negative factor on recruitment. i thought, maybe we can bring the prices down. foreclosure works magic. i do not think you want that. you want rising wealth which could translate into a rising houses -- housing prices. you can increase density and breakdown similar rules, you get more people. there's a lot of things. as i drove down here...
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we are talking about a sales tax and it is alled the fair tax. what it means, yes, it could start at 15 percent x. rick unger makes a good point. states have their own sales tax system . it would make a competitive health care market. here is the problem, the senior lobby would lobby hard against it because seniors paid the income taxes and when they spend income in sales tax, they would be upset about it. >> michael, just for the sake of simplicity alone. the last tax increase that we had to endure makes the tax code more complex. for the sake of simplicity don't you want. >> i want a flat income tax and that makes it simple and fair and everyone to pay the porportion of their income in taxes that gives them the same amount of sn in the game and that would slow down government spending, wow, i am going to taxed for a new program. >> steve will not give you an argument on the flat tax, but the beauty of what is happening in the state level in this country, for all of the messiness that we have in the state level they are getting their act togethe
we are talking about a sales tax and it is alled the fair tax. what it means, yes, it could start at 15 percent x. rick unger makes a good point. states have their own sales tax system . it would make a competitive health care market. here is the problem, the senior lobby would lobby hard against it because seniors paid the income taxes and when they spend income in sales tax, they would be upset about it. >> michael, just for the sake of simplicity alone. the last tax increase that we...